The public reaction to the Israel-Gaza conflict is deeply polarized, with strong support for Israel's military actions contrasted by significant concern for the humanitarian crisis affecting civilians in Gaza. Many comments emphasize the necessity of Israel's actions against Hamas while calling for peace and understanding of both perspectives. The discussions reveal emotions ranging from anger and frustration to empathy and calls for accountability from both sides.

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Global community

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Positive-Scale2139

But Babbu man be like show off menu krna paina, tenu pta kede sheher vich Rainda, 
Lahore vich munda rehinda
Soniya punjabii aye oye oi......

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Stock-Weakness-9362

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Last_Piccolo_4176

Then the prime minister will drive a truck in canada part time

tgvaizothofh

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kogamiedwa

I think Israel commiting genocide against the Palestinian people makes it a bit more than a conflict bud.

TheJWal420

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iceman___11

So China will give you their territory…why?

Kira_txt

What has Afghanistan to do with this Desi wet-dream?

ForsakenTrifle4566

10 reports on a single comment containing facts and a source in under 3 minutes. 

The bots have found this post :3

thebarcodelad

Opposing a country isn't the same as opposing people of a certain religion.

I think a lot of anti semites use pro Palestinian talking points to oppose Israel/Jews and some anti zionists definitely get lured down the path of anti semitism without knowing but I don’t think opposing Israel in itself makes you anti semetic

I-have-Arthritis-AMA

no, just like how hating nazi Germany doesn't make u anti German or opposing the Russian government doesn't mean you hate all russians

NoReplacement480

No because opposing Britain in Ireland dosnt mean you are anti Christian

Defiant_Hat_68

It's definitely not antisemitic at all to be critical of the Israeli government and to oppose Israel. It is however antisemitic to hold Israel to standards higher than any other country.

NumismaticAussie

No absolutely not.

Supporting the innocent Palestinians in the war is not antisemitism. 

Supporting Hamas however, that’s a different story. But not all Palestinians are Hamas. Many are innocent people.

Full_Horror7114

King-gar

Not liking Nazis doesn’t mean your anti German

Gloomy_Blackberry164

I mean, it depends. Not on its own, of course, but if you're like some people yelling out "Israel deserves to die, fuck the genociding Jews, bomb them to the ground", then yeah, that's too far. That's like the same argument everyone uses to defend Palestine, so it also works the other way around

UpperAd8033

As long as you're not being racist to Jews, then no.

Pleasant-Light-3629

The question is inherently a made up one. anti-Semites consistently use it to hide behind legit activists. Especially cherry picking the one or two jews who make that as a widespread claim. Stupid

notkevinoramuffin

No. But I have to say, a TON of antisemites are crowded in with just the anti-Israel crowd. I’ve seen pro-Palestinian commentators on other antisemitic videos on platforms like TikTok and YouTube.

It’s an extremely convenient excuse for antisemitism.

FreeRun5179

netanyahu is a fucking idiot and is making awful decisions harming everyone but especially civilians in gaza

aspentheman

Blaming the Israel government is not being antisemitic. A lot of the people in office aren't really Jews they just claim to be. Hating Jews is antisemitic but hating the government (which we all should) isnt

glassesguy90210

If by ‘Israel’ you mean ‘the Israeli government’ then no. They disgust me.

Not every Israeli is genocidal. I support the civilians of both Israel and Palestine who are plagued by this war and want no part of it.

JustElk3629

Because of the way radicalization works, some people who start out innocently opposing Israel and supporting Palestinian civilians end up hating all Israelis and Jews. Same thing can happen for the other side.

Kitchen_Split6435

Whatever Israel supporter is spam reporting everyone, please shut up, i remove comments that break rules, not whatever you don’t like.

sillylilffemboykinda

No, but claiming Israeli people are inherently genocidal is. Hate the government, not the people.

Business-Ship-7592

No, but all the antisemites let you know just how much they oppose Israel all the time 

Easy-Purple

No, however a lot of the rhetoric against Israel veers into antisemitism

Alivra

Are you racist towards white people if you hate Hitler? What kind of question is this?

RwRahfa

It’s antisemitic to oppose Israel’s existence, unless, for example, you oppose an end to all Muslim or Christian states as well. But 74% of Israelis want the hostages back and the conflict ended. It’s hardly antisemitic to agree with them.

Broad_Brother_8345

No, but it is to want the total destruction of the Israeli state.

SpacePrivateer_

Critical-Gas-4700

As a Jew the conflation of anti-semitism and anti-Zionism is actually pretty offensive… like most of us don’t want this. A lot of ultra-orthodox rabbis recognise that the occupation of Palestine conflicts with the Torah. Zionism itself was originally an anti-Semitic project. Fuck these people

Catullus314159

Opposing the humanitarian crisis, starvation, and the government actions (Netanyahu's, particularly) is not anti-semitic, just like being anti-Trump doesn't make you anti-American, or anti-Putin doesn't make you anti-Russian, or anti-Zelensky doesn't make you anti-Ukrainian.

However, opposing Israel's existence and saying, "Israel Isn'treal", "Israel is an illegitimate state", "Israel should've never been created" is anti-Semitic.

mr_chris_verdi

You're opposing the acts of a government, not hating on Jewish people as a whole.

Your not saying that their bad because of their religion, your saying that country is bad cause their invading another country

SwedishNukes

its just how you go about it, the people being neo-nazis about it and using the conflict as an excuse to commit hate crimes. yes. but the people who are genuinely frustrated with this and conflict in general aren't

Final_Information936

Not antisemitic but plenty of these people do just hate jews for existing

meowmeow6770

I used to support Israel before they went too far. Palestine is guilty for the invasion, but it doesn't allow Israel to do such terrible things with civilians in Gaza

dyvotvir

It isn’t hateful to not support the murder of innocent men, women, and children.

Kitchen_knive

Guys I misclicked and voted for Yes, I’m sorry 

klysmr

imo no but most of the people who support gaza, seem to just become fully anti semetic. acting like the people of israel actually are doing something wrong, rather than blaming the israeli government and idf.

Spirited-Two473

No, Zionism is an ideology, not a religion

Memeviewer12

Israel Government - No

Israel People - Yes

The thing is, given unchecked power, the Hamas and the Israeli government would both wipe out and eradicate the other side with no survivors. There is no benefit to leaving anyone on the other side alive. "Both look like gentle old men, but don't let that fool you. They're both ruthless dictators dreaming of uniting the Levant under their own regime."

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HumanNuber-79

"Is it antisemitic to not want Israel murdering innocent civillians under the guise of fighting Hamas?"

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69420 lol funny number but May God himself deal with the 66 people who said yes

SyedShehHasan

Didnt say that i would be supporting hamas or not, soo definitely not antisemitic as one who opposes hamas as well

OOOshafiqOOO003

Opposing the civilians or the government? 

crime_dog27

no, obviously not. If i oppose a country that doesnt mean i hate the people, i just oppose what theyre doing. and this is even more stupid to think it is because anti semintism is about the religion not the people.

squid3011

Opposing a state is different from.opposing an ethnicity

iLikePotatoes65

No. If it was, there wouldn’t be so many anti-Zionist Jews

Polar_Tang27

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yD_dE

As it was put by some important government guy a while ago talking to trump: D-day was the day my country was freed from the Nazis. A government does not represent its people. 

Fresh-broski

no but a surprising amount of zionists on reddit think so.

ym_2

Upper-Account4180

Depends really 

Opposing Israel? Fine 

Calling them Nazis and the Gaza war as bad as the Holocaust? Yes that's antisemtic

yuri_nomoru122

I do support Israel, but it’s not antisemitism.

Capable-Cry9682

No, but believing israel doesn't have a right to exist is.

Competitive-Bar6667

Is it antisemitic to fund and prop up Hamas? If so, that means Benjamin Netanyahu is antisemitic ([Source](https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/)).

Pyju

Ok_Cook_1033

Judaism and Zionism are 2 different things

Only the Real Jews hate Israel

kaaskop192928

In the same way that it isn't wrong to hate the US for having used nukes to end ww2. It's not antisemitism of you to oppose how the IDF is handling the destruction of Hamas in a seemingly risky manner, it would be antisemitism to start donating to pro-hamas organizations and to boycott or threaten Israeli/Jewish businesses and people simply because they aren't actively and visually supporting Hamas/Palestinians in this war.

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DeltaBot

Since nobody seemed to read the actual post where OP said This is NOT a discussion of the morality and bothered trying to change their view, I'll chime in.

I don’t think Gaza’s total destruction is the only likely outcome—just the most extreme one. A more natural and historically consistent outcome is that, over time, the Palestinian population adapts. Romantic arguments about “you can’t kill an idea” make for great slogans, but history shows people abandon causes when the costs become generationally unsustainable.

Eventually—maybe after a couple more cycles of war and displacement—the dominant will likely shift from resistance to survival. That could mean accepting a much smaller, weaker, and more fragmented version of a state—far worse than what was on the table in 1948, 1967, Oslo, 2005, or 2008. Not because it's fair, but because it’s what’s left.

Obsidian1000

I'm a lot more optimistic than yourself. Here are few things to consider -   
1) At least currently, the rate of death/removal of land isn't compatible with "wiping out Gaza". That is not to say that there aren't a lot of dead Palestinians and that is not to say that any life of a single Palestinian person aren't valuable - just that for more than a year now there are more Palestinians born in Gaza than Palestinians that died, and this is when you include Hamas militants in the calculation.  Same goes for Palestinians that left Gaza. At the start of the war a meaningful amount left, but after that not so many.  
This is not to diminish the suffering or anything, just to say that for your end to be the "likely" end, we would have to see a significant increase in those parameters.   
  
2) Majority of Israelis have showed in polls consistent support for the end of the war - and this majority grows as time progresses. (I know, some people in the comments would want to bring the one outlier poll with the poor methodology about the 82%, this is not how statistics work). This is already seen in Israel reducing the number of reservists they enlist, because many of them simply don't want to come for a war they want to end. This makes the increase from (1) significantly less likely - there is no internal support for such a move. That being said - the current Israeli gov (which according to polls loses by a large margin to its opposition) still has about a year+ left in office.

3) Lastly, IDK how close you follow the news, but there are some signs that Hamas loses its power completely. Some of these signs include the PA saying worse and worse things about Hamas (for the first time they said that October 7 was horrible), there are armed militias (that Israel helped arm - something that isn't consistent with occupying Gaza btw) that openly go against Hamas, and the Gazan protests against Hamas continue. The weaker Hamas are, the less commanders they have remaining, the better the offers that Israel is likely to get. Currently, any offer that was put on the table had Hamas remaining in some capacity in Gaza. Once this is gone - ideally it's easier to push Hamas to relinquish power and give back the hostages. If this happens - it's really hard to justify the continuation of the war - both to the Israeli public (that its opinions matter) and to the US. 

4) Lastly, notice that there are reports in recent days about Trump saying to Netanyahu he wants to see an end the war soon. Seems like Trump went back from his riviera plan.

comeon456

Why would that end the conflict?

The West Bank would still be a source of contention, and enough former-Gazian Palestinians live overseas to cause trouble at some future point.

The only end to the conflict is a diplomatic one, where both sides make concessions and find agreement over common grounds. Unfortunately, the leadership on both sides is probably going to have to change before this becomes a possibility—but it's still the only real resolution; anything else is just a pause while one side or the other regroups.

Wheloc

A one state solution is possible. Everyone can live together under a free, fair, democratic country. 

Israel supported and tolerated the religious groups that became Hamas. Their goal was to allow the religious extremist groups to gain power to squash the secular Palestinian Liberation movement. 

This just ended with the fight for Palestinians in gaza being tied to religious extremism. Which was great PR for Israel. 

However, it's not true. These are real people, both in Gaza and in Israel, who just want to live their lives. They could easily live in harmony. 

Jews, Muslims, and Christians lived together in the area for centuries. The modern conflicts began after the rise of Zionism, and specifically the Balfour declaration, where the British promised the Palestinians a nation if they revolted against ottomon rule, and they also promised the same area to Zionists for a Jewish state. Then European settlers started coming and in displacing natives from their homes and villages. That's when the fighting started. 

It's not impossible for them to coexist. 

This can be ended by a state where all people have equal rights, instead of the apartheid system that is currently set up. 

The issues that prevent that: 
The right of return. Palestinians aren't given the right of return to their ancestral homelands, but Jewish people who's families haven't lived their for millenia are given that right. 

Ethnonationalism: Israel is a Jewish state. That automatically puts a certain group in a higher social status than the others 

Mutual mistrust and trauma: the decades of fighting will leave lasting scars that need to be addressed to be able to allow healing. 

I don't see a reason why these issues would prevent them from being able to live together. They're certainly much better than genocide.

mddnaa

Since the prompt is to set morality aside, the simplest way to refute this is to mention that wiping out Israel would also end the conflict. Maybe some hypothetical where Iran or Russia infiltrates their nukes and sets them off in their silos?

A more realistic option though is to get peace partners on both sides. Maybe after all of this carnage, Palestinians oust Hamas (there are already protests going on now). Then, without Hamas as a boogie man, the Israeli far right loses their appeal/seats/power. Maybe whoever replaces Netanyahu and Hamas are both so sick of the carnage that they finally make a lasting peace.

Not sure how likely that is, but I think that could happen. It would require a lot of sacrifice from both sides though.

TJaySteno1

Generally speaking, Israel is willing to make peace.  They have long term peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan.  They just recently negotiated a ceasefire with Lebanon.  

For gaza, there is one non-negotiable requirement, and one likely requirement to peace.  Fulfilling both would probably avert the complete destruction you anticipate.  

Non-negotiable:

The hostages simply have to be returned.  Israel is not going to agree to any peace treaty that leaves hostages in the hands of Hamas to star in some future snuff video.  

That’s not even just a Netanyahu thing.  Even if he is removed from power, any government that takes its place would have to get the hostages returned before ending the war. 

Note that any “peace first, then the hostages get returned” is not going to work.  The war will continue until the hostages or their bodies are recovered.  There is simply no way for it to end before then. 



Likely requirement:

Hamas probably cannot remain as the government.  Unlike the hostages, I think there is some wiggle room on this one.  But, most likely, Israel would prefer war than allow Hamas, which has promised to launch a similar massacre in the future, to stick around.  

So, can the conflict end without the destruction of gaza?   For sure!   They will have to return the hostages and probably surrender unconditionally. Gaza may choose mass death over surrender, Japan almost did that in WW2, but it doesn’t have to happen that way.

Knave7575

Is part of your belief that Hamas will never surrender and never accept a Jewish state alongside itself?

Ok_Owl_5403

That would be contrary to a now seventy year piles of evidence of how these things generally go.

A more logical and likely outcome is a partial depopulation of the area, with an exodus to nearby regions that encompasses a substantial part of the population, with the utter collapse of any organized Palestinian command, or its reorganization around the handful of people controlling what aide is given, or the ability to take it by force.

It is unlikely that Hamas in its pre-war form will be in that role, but entirely possible that different factions of it change the label or take over different parts of it.     Its also possible that a new violent extremist group emerges with a decisive edge in internal violence use, and uses its lack of track record to be considered a temporary benign influence to the Useful Idiot class of the West. 

This isn't ethnic cleansing, it isn't genocide,  it is a rinse and repeat political pogrom, that likely will be revisited over and over for the rest of our lifetimes, until the Palestinians forsake violence.

ErieHog

I'm relieved that your post isn’t cheering for Gaza’s destruction - it’s wrestling with the fear that it might be the only end left. That sense of inevitability is what I want to gently challenge.

There’s a bitter irony here. The last time a superpower ended a major war with overwhelming force was America dropping atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It was framed as a necessary horror to stop a greater one, and it did end the war.

Fast forward to Gaza: over the past 18 months, more explosive force than both atomic bombs combined - an estimated 60+ kilotons, has been dropped on one of the most crowded civilian areas in the world.

But it hasn’t ended Hamas. It hasn’t ended the conflict. The suffering has multiplied, and peace feels more distant.

If annihilation worked, we’d already have peace.

What actually ended WWII wasn’t just devastation - it was what followed. America didn’t just flatten Japan - they rebuilt it, invested in it, and created the conditions for peace.

That’s never been done for Gaza.

If we truly want an end, maybe the answer is world leaders finding their humanity and investing in justice, not perpetual wars and the kind of peace that is supposedly going to exist when Gaza becomes  apartheid apartments by the sea, built on the rubble of an unmarked graveyard for children.

throwawayfem77

Okay. While I think the ending you’ve suggested is possible, I also think it’s far from likely. Here are my reasons.

1.) Israel doesn’t want to become a pariah state. There are definitely some Israeli far-right politicians who don’t care what foreign states think of Israel, but that’s not yet the majority. And while Netanyahu has snubbed the President on occasion, it’s a thin line. 

Without American and European support, Israel would be dramatically weakened. They might be the strongest state in the region now, but a few decades down the line? Who knows. Level heads in the IDF of all places probably understand the threat international isolation poses better than Ben Gvir and his imbecilic posse.

2.) It’s too much money to continue the war indefinitely. Some kind of diplomatic agreement has to be reached, because total mobilization isn’t cheap.



The most likely solution, in my view, is another partial occupation/full occupation and a truce, not with Hamas but with some kind of puppet Palestinian authority. Kicking this can down the road has become an Israeli specialty at this point.

byzantiu

Hamas could surrender.

That always been an option. That prevent it.

Surrender has always been an option for Palestinian that they refuse to take. Take the L that they lost the war (and such lost major political capital) and decide to move on with their lives rather than try to take back what they lost.

If we take the premise that Hamas would rather all of Gaza burn then surrender to Israel, then yeah you're correct. Probably war will end with Gaza destruction.

But do you accept that premise that Palestrina people prefer death to surrender.

SnooOpinions5486

What does "wipe out" entail?
98% of Palestinians are still there after 2 years of war.


So infrastructure? Political system? Economy?

biteme4711

I will continue base on the assumption that you are only pointing out that Israel wants to complete the genocide and occupy the Gaza strip and other Palestinian lands, not endorsing or supporting their action.

* Politically speaking, Israel will most likely continue their effort because there is no opposing forces, thanks to the US' constant nays at the Security Council, if it was not Israel but another country with no lobbists paying US politicians, that country would have been bombed to oblivion two years ago.
* Militarily speaking, while Houthis are still launching missiles at Israel, but TBH it's only a nuisance at this point, and it will continue to be, base on the distance and all the arab countries that are not too keen on helping Palestine.
* Economically speaking, Israel has what it takes to keep going, of course I'm refering to the US tax dollars, while Palestine has next to nothing.
* Culturally speaking, Israel now shares the reputation of the Third-Reich and Militarist Imperial Japan, so they can't go lower, so nothing is holding them back in this regard.

It's likely Israel will continue down this path, but there is hope --

1. US will come to its senses when they realize Israel is becoming too strong in that region and starts to hurt their profit. (Not the first time, look at Al-Qaeda, Saddam Hussein, Taliban, Iran, Libyan rebels, Syrian rebels, the list goes on)
2. nternational pressure, shifting regional alliances, and global public opinion can create new dynamics that force Israel and its ally to stop.
3. Palestinian people’s resilience and the broader Arab and international solidarity movements continue to exert pressure, demanding justice and a sustainable resolution.

In short, while the current trajectory appears grim, complex geopolitical realities and historical precedents suggest that total annihilation is not the only possible end. Change—though difficult—remains within the realm of possibility.

CanadianGangsta

I unfortunately think your view is not... unlikely, but we have to keep in mind that past peace breakthroughs in the region also were unfathomable before they actually occurred. Nobody thought peace between Egypt and Israel would ever be possible before the brave, extended campaign on the part of Egyptian leadership to normalize relations.

It certainly isn't guaranteed, but a unified leadership on the palestinian side, willing to embrace peace and negotiate in good faith, and with the backing of the international community could force israel into a position where they *must* negotiate peace. I have my disagreements with Israeli leadership, but historically Israel has pretty astutely responded to the political realities on the ground, whether or not those aligned with their (often distasteful) political aspirations. 

if, by some miracle, a coherent palestinian leadership emerged that was dead-set on peace, it is not unlikely that Israel would have to negotiate a peace agreement with them - just like Jordan, Egypt, and now even Saudi Arabia

I think that with proper public pressure, the US and European governments will eventually have to do less and less for Israel, until Israel is forced to make peace.

Israel’s unpopularity and waning support will eventually make it collapse.

So the only way to stop a genocide is to let the people be completely destroyed and finish the genocide? Great insight sis 🤣

rkhatri

I'll take this one step further:
The only way to achieve true peace on earth is for the human species to be wiped out entirely.

TwilightFate

If America stops giving weapons to Israel the war will end

Invinciblez_Gunner

It depends what you mean by "the annihilation of Gaza". Large swathes of the strip have been reduced to rubble at this point, and Israel is certainly in favor of large scale emigration of Gazans from the strip. I don't think they'd have the political backing to carry out forced expulsions, but you can argue that the systematic destruction of infrastructure in the strip is a tacit endorsement of ethnic cleansing (and it's not hard to find hardcore voices in Israel who proudly call for that and worse).

If what you mean by "annihilation of Gaza" is that all 2 million residents will be killed, that's nowhere near a reality. The death toll in this conflict is far below the death toll in the Russia/Ukraine war, or many other conflicts in recent history, in raw numbers. The impact on civilians is egregious, and the fact that civilians haven't been able to flee is somewhat unprecedented. When all the dust settles, and the full death toll is tabulated, I don't know if it would reach double digits in terms of percentages (ie; &gt;10%). That's just a death toll - not a casualty toll, or a psychological trauma toll.

What would it take for Israel to end the war? Bibi wants to end the war with what is seen as a decisive victory. As it stands, Israel has largely dismantled Hamas's military capabilities and commanders. They've destroyed Hezbollah, and are eyeing possible normalization of ties with Syria.  Meanwhile, there's a huge focus in Israel in dismantling Iran's nuclear program, which requires freeing up additional military resources. There's also a strong pressure internally in Israel to wrap up the war in Gaza - the economic toll is huge, the diplomatic toll has been enormous, Israelis broadly prioritize returning the hostages, and there's increasing political pressure to bring the war to an end. For example, you mentioned Trump - while it's true that America won't stop providing arms to Israel, Trump also wants to be seen as a peacemaker, and has been exerting pressure on Israel recently to bring the war to a close and declare victory.

I think you can expect that the two sides will sign an agreement somewhat soon, under the proposed "Witkoff plan". That would lead to 10 living hostages freed over the course of 60 days, and the final living hostages' release to be negotiated pending a full end to the war. Israel might make a big push to get Gazans to leave for other countries, but even if 1 million people leave (which is unlikely - nobody wants to accept Gazan refugees, especially on mass), there will still be 1 million people living in the strip.

Over the coming decade, there will be an enormous amount of money poured into reconstruction efforts. There are billions of people around the world who want to donate money to that cause, and every country in the middle east would benefit from a stable and prosperous Gaza. Obviously, that's not possible with Hamas in control, but the current deals on the table would theoretically see Hamas cede control. The political future of the conflict is uncertain, but the continued existence of Gaza is not. 

Happy to provide citations for anything you have questions about here.

MostlyAffable

So you have accepted now that a two state solution is not sustainable, and it never was, not when once side refuses to live peacefully in coexistence. I’m glad. 

You later stated ‘a one state solution with equal rights seems great but does not seem likely in the near future’ I’m not sure if this is just genuine lack of knowledge or naiveness but I’ll go with the first. There is a one state, that has offered a tremendous number of solutions, that offers equal rights for all citizens irregardless of race, religion, political views, sex or sexual orientation - This is called the state of Israel. Where 2 million Arabs live peacefully in coexistence, more so they are in the Knesset, they are all doctors or bankers or high court judges.

StartMiddle

Human brains seek simple, easily understood solutions to complex problems. Real life is hardly ever so simple. 

Israel has already pretty much destroyed most of Gaza so you're correct there. But I think the idea that Gazans will be relocated or killed is not realistic. On relocation - there is nowhere for them to go. Egypt will not have them in Sinai. Its not practical in any way. And on extermination... also not really realistic.

Despite the brutality of this war only a small fraction of Gazans are dead. There is a very very large gap I between war with heavy civilian casualties and systemic extermination. Gazans are still having babies. The current pace of the war, devastating as it is, can continue for a very very long time without resulting in extermination. 

The fact is that there is really no gain for Israel in extermination. That would only radicalize Palestinians in Israel and the West Bank and move the conflict elsewhere. Israel knows that there is no realistic solution in which they do not still have to deal with a substantial Palestinian population in territories they control. 

Extermination doesn't suit their interests. Domination does. There will be a harsh occupation and strict apartheid-style laws for the foreseeable future. They believe they cannot live peacefully with Palestinians and cannot exterminate then either, so they aim to control them as closely as possible.

Prince_Marf

With all due respect, your comments reflect deep ignorance about the social structure of the Palestinian territories. Further, your comments suggest a significant disconnect between your media diet and current events in Gaza. 

In the Palestinian territories, a small number of clans (essentially extended families, but the concept not completely analogous) hold tremendous social and political power. In the past few weeks, three different clans in Gaza have denounced Hamas and begun working with Israel in opposition to Hamas. This is a significant turning point in the war.

If the clans are able (with the help if Israel) overthrow Hamas, they will replace Hamas as the governing body of Gaza.

Was that the solution for slavery of black people in America or South Africa?

Seems like equal rights tend to be the most likely if we go by history.

Unless you think jews are some special kind of evil

Giardian_of_Israel

If it's okay to be this existential then lets get rid of Israel by stopping all its funding. The West has thrown so much money into making this barbaric and unnatural project work but all it would take to make it fall is let go and let gravity do its work. 

DustyFalmouth

Total genocide of Gaza won't end the war. Once Gaza is empty the West Bank will be next. They're already running operations there and the leadership of the West Bank *has* recognized Israels right to exist.

After they empty the West Bank they move on the Jordan and Sinai. Remember, the Israeli right believes Israel should stretch from the Nile to the Euphrates.

So sure, you can take the morality questions out of it. But your question in inherently flawed because whether you empty out Gaza or not it still won't end the conflict.

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